tv Erin Burnett Out Front CNN December 6, 2011 7:00pm-8:00pm EST
doesn't sound like someone who's changed. out front tonight, breaking news, a ninth accuser comes forward in the penn state child rape case. his accusations against garry san dusky. president obama delivering a speech. we break down that speech and the chances of a deal on the payroll tax. but first the bottom line on the man of the memento. new polls out showing him couraging. peter king comes out to tell us why he might not be the guy. let's go out front. out front tonight, newt on top. brand-new numbers out today, let's show you this, this started a week ago and has
gotten stronger and more consistent. nationwide, this is what you're looking at here, gingrich holding a 15 point advantage over his competitors as you see, 37-22 for mitt romney. in iowa, caucusgoers there rival mitt romney at 17%. down in south carolina, gingrich 38%. gingrich still has a lot of critics inside his own party. among the most outspoken congressman peter king. i asked him whether he's happy to see the polls. >> i'm really not. to give newt credit, republicans took back the house of representatives for the first time in 40 years because of newt. he's a very good revolutionary, he's able to mobilize forces, but as far as governing, as far as being a leader, he's too
erratic, he's so self-centered. the time that he was speaker, there was one crisis after another, and they were almost all self-inflicted. he puts himself at the center of everything. and it was impossible to stick to a game plan and bill clinton constantly outmaneuvered him. >> you said i don't think he has the temperaturement, intellectual -- that newt hasn't been on prominent display in recent months. >> partly because he hasn't been watched as he would be if he became president. he compared his wife to jacqueline kennedy and laura bush and nancy reagan. and yesterday he was going into a rant about child labor laws and he does that without laying any foundation for it. he's really incapable of laying out his reasons first, instead
he makes his inflammatory statements, all these apocalyptic statements, the worst corruption in the history of the world, the most hypocritical thing in the history of mankind, all that type of armageddon language, it wears people out after a while. >> it's going to happen, right, buyer's remorse, if they pick him as the nominee? >> you don't change when you're 68 years old. that is newt, the good and the bad. he's a tremendously inspirational person, as for as rallying the troops. but as far as governing, he doesn't have the capacity to discipline and control himself. he cannot stay focused. the country and the congress will be going through one crisis after another. there's enough crisis in the world without inflicting crises on ourselves. the reason the republicans lost the government shutdown debate
with president clinton in 1995 is because newt gave the impression it was all about him being made to get off of the back of air force one. that's the way he puts himself at the center of everything. >> he just said to abc, i'm going to be the next nominee. i know that you don't think he's the right guy, but if it were him versus president obama, who would you vote for? >> i would vote for the nominee of the party. i would certainly vote for the nominee of the republican party. >> you just think your vote wouldn't matter? >> again, newt does represent certain republican principles and i would prefer him over president obama, but he would not be overall, nowhere near the best representative of our party. >> thank you very much representative king, thank you very much for coming out tonight. >> as we said, we really are seeing some strong divisions amongst republicans. you don't really have people coming out like that against
their own party. craig shipley is author of gingrich's authorized biography. he wrote a very critical column. two people very different views. but craigson just came out and made the case for why he doesn't think newt is the guy and can handle it. why don't you take the other side, you are a supporter of him, correct? >> i'm more of just a writer and biographer for gingrich. when one politician attacks another politician for being self-centered. the other thing that's interesting is that he's talking about things that happened 15, 20 years ago with gingrich. he has been on display, he's been everywhere. he's been all over the debates, everybody agrees that he's been remarkably disciplined. this is not new for the republican party. we are not witnessing, the republican party has always had a history of being bipolar.
this is an extension of that story of the separation between the moderate wing and the conservative wing and it's being played out once again. >> the headline of your article, heart break awaits republicans who love newt. and then some of the words that was pulled out by bloomberg through your piece, erratic, undisciplin undisciplined, grandiose. >> i don't believe that he's changed, i think in fact all of those traits have been on display in recent weeks, in the last month, he has compared himself to ronald reagan and mar get thatcher. in the last year, he has flip-flopped three successive times about what to do about medicare, he took a vacation cruise right after the launch of his campaign. what this says to me is grandiose, undisciplined. he has not changed. >> knowing all that, and the
voters presumably know all the things that were rattled off and he's surging in the polls, so all these plants about the insiders don't mean a whit to the voters in iowa and new hampshire and south carolina and florida and everywhere. they want someone who's going to articulate their conservative vision and newt's the one that's doing it. >> your book is supposed to come out, you have traveled with him. you have seen e-mails, you've heard phone calls, is there a side to him that we don't know? bl it's arrogant or ego it is kl that people who dislike him seem to use? >> he's remarkably frank about his mistakes, i asked him about the 104th and the 105th congress, he said i lost control of my caucus,a's all there is too it.
he has not pulled back in any of the interviews we have engaged in. it's been almost all about policy, it's a political biography, not a personal biography. but he's been remarkably frank about all of these things. >> i want to ask, 16% of voters say that -- he's been married three times, he's admitted to extramarital affairs. is that 16% unusually high or low? what do we read into that. >> i think it means that republican voters are holding this against him, they're not saying it doesn't rule out voting for him. assuming that's the whole story, that we know the whole story. >> thanks very much, craig, appreciate it. it's going to be an interesting one. interesting to see people with their flaws and how they rise above them. ahead on out front, we have breaking news on the penn state child rape case, a ninth accuser
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customers in. sales actually rose at red lobster and longhorn steakhouse. bottom line it wasn't good enough for investors. stock fell 12% in today's trading. a little challenging for the economy. we're learning more details about that drone that robberied in iran. the iranians had claimeded that they shot it down. we knew that it was an rq-170 sentinel, it was on a mission, we can now tell you for the cia at the time it disappeared. here's barbara starr with more details. >> reporter: the u.s. stealth drone that crashed in iran last week after the u.s. lost control of it was part of a cia reconnaissance mission. the officials are also for the first time confirming that it was an rq-170, the stealth drone
that is so important to the cia. this drone has special coding technology that makes it less visible to radars, to enemy radars. that's one of the keys to it. it also has sensors that allow it to see into enemy territory to gather intelligence information for possible targeting. that means u.s. officials are not saying a key fact here, was it flying over iran when it lost control? was it flying over the afghan-iran border or inside afghanistan and it drifted into iran? no one will say if it was over iranian air space. we also know that when the drone went down, the u.s. did consider some type of mission to either recover the wreckage or bomb it to keep it out of the hands of the iranians, that's how important it was. but all of those options were discarded because it was inside iran. the question now of course is that if the iranians have their hands on the wreckage, which the u.s. believes they go, how much
do they have? how much access do the iranians have in understanding this special stealth coding, the special intelligence that's on this drone. >> what are they going to do with that technology? what do they really have in yesterday in abdue bu dhabi-- breaking news on the penn state sex abuse scandal. former assistant football -- sandusky is charged with four counts of child sex abuse of eight young boys over a preliminary time span. joining us from the state college in pennsylvania sarah, let me just ask you, you broke this story today about the ninth
accuser, what exactly is he sayisay saying jerry sandusky. what he's saying is slightly different than what the other accusers have said. he said he was a second mile camper staying at second mile facilities in 2004 when he was 12 years old. he was in a swimming pool with jerry sandusky and other kids, was then separated from the other children, taken on a four with jerry sandusky, taken into the football building and into an office in that football building where jerry sandusky gave him whisky a he molested him just before he went back to camp. he was a second mile child and that's consistent with all of the other accusations, all oath
other accusers have been second mile children. >> sarah. thank you very much. especially given the alcohol involved. let's bring in cnn legal corporate paul callan here, the fact that there was whisky involved, just strikes me even more than just the facts itself. explain how this happens when another accuser comes forward. >> it's not uncommon at all in these child abuse cases. i think we're up to 13 claimed victims in this case. people get the courage to come forward. they have been harboring these thoughts about the fact that they were abused as children and suddenly it's in the press and they realize that people are taking them seriously. of course it also inspires copycat people to come forward who just want to make money.
so they have to sort out the real from the fake claims. most states now had eliminated this preliminary hearing business, you as a grand jury presentation and you go to trial. prosecutors like to keep their evidence secret, but in pennsylvania, we're going to have a hearing. the victims are going to come into court to testify and actually be subject to cross-examination. >> these additional ones aren't going to be involved in the preliminary hearing? >> we're going to get a real good look at how credible they may appear to be and the judge then has to make a decision. >> are we going to get to see them? or are their identities going to be protected. >> if they were children at the time, definitely protect their identities, but these are adults. some of them may be willing to raise their right to testify without being publicly identified. >> he had called in with bob
costas on nbc. what is the strategy on him giving interviews. >> tradition you hire a criminal defense attorney to prevent you from being destroyed by the press. we have this thing called the right to remain silent. it exists for a reason because generally when a defendant goes out and starts making public statements, he gets crucified at trial. >> next "out front" we broke down the president's speech day in kansas, and mitt romney, he picked up an endorsement today from former vice president dan quayle, why we couldn't resist that one. n for adults. plus an excellent source of omega-3 dha in a great tasting gummy. one a day, gummies for grown-ups.
and now a story we can't resist. so earlier today, mitt romney received an official endorsement from former vice president dan quayle. quayle has mostly stayed out of the limelight since his one term as vp and his run for president in 2000. in honor of his endorsement today, here's a look back on the political life of former vp dan quayle. >> in 1988, the question is whether we're going to go forward to tomorrow or we're going to go past to the back.
and i can tell you -- we don't want to go back to tomorrow, we want to move in regard. i believe that i have made good judgments in the past and i believe i have made good judgments in the future. the future will be made tomorrow. there is nothing that a good defense cannot be a better offense. in other words a good offense wins i was known as the chief graverobber of my state. it's part of the united states that is in ireland is right here. >> and if you thought that we would forget his most notable episode. >>ed a one little bit on the end. potato, how is that spelled? you're right phonetically.
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we'll start the second half of our show with stories we care about. we do our own reporting and find the out front five. newt zbigingrich the former sper of the house, he's 15 points ahead of his closest competitor, mitt romney. despite newt's rising popularity, some republicans not on board. congressman peter king came out earlier saying gingrich is not the right nominee for the republican party because he's erratic and incapable of controlling himself. babbitt submitted his resignation to his boss, transportation secretary ray la hood who said he learned of babbitt's arrest through a police address. number three, evangelist billy graham has been released from a hospital following a six-day
treatment for pneumonia. the 93-year-old's personal doctor said that we are gratified that he has had a good response to treatment. graham has been treated successfully twice now for pneumonia in the past months. number four, facebook admitted to a flaw that allows memberers to see private -- facebook spokesperson told "out front" upon discovering the bug, we immediately disabled the system and will only return functionality when we're sure the bug is fixed. facebook then gave the newser the choice to select one's setting to private. when the boss has a privacy problem with facebook. it's been 123 days since the country lost our aaa ratings.
today the ratings agency warned that if those countries are downgraded it may -- that's actually a real big negative. what does the payroll tax cut mean to you? we have been talking about the numbers, it could mean a lot more money comes out of your paycheck every week if it doesn't get extended. it has to be extended before january 1. president obama was in kansas today stressing the importance of the deal. >> if we don't do that, the 160 million americans, including most of the people here will see their taxes go up by an average of $1,000 starting in january and it would badly weaken our recovery. >> the average american can expect to lose somewhere between $700 to $2,300 if the cuts are not extended. the more you make, obviously the more you pay on the payroll tax. the white house has even placed a downclock on its website to pressure congress.
the irony here is that rs and ds grow that it should be extended. democratic senator bob casey introduced a plan that called for a 1.9% surtax on millionaires to get the tax. that surtax was over. the government -- so what will the rs come up with now? because that clock is ticking. senator -- the clock is ticking, i was jokingly saying people want to go home for the holidays. it's not really fair to say it will go to new year's. i hope it gets settled before that. >> erin, good to be with you, the key is we want to extend the payroll tax holiday, we also want to make sure it's paid for because we're talking about dollars that go into social security, we need to make sure
that we do all we can to make social security solvent and not increase the deficit. that's why republicans have put in regard a plan to pay for the tax holiday. we want to continue it but we want to make sure it's paid for. that plan was voted down by the democrats. now the house is working on another package. you talked about some things that were in it. >> so you're for a tax for millionaires? >> we believe the closing leap holes and getting revenue from growth and we have a comprehensive plan that also includes savings excitement and reform. >> so what other way is there to pay for it? because you have to say, i know you may disagree intellectual want to do it. what other ways are there to do it if you don't want to raise
taxes and you couldn't pass the freeze on federal salaries? >> there are a number of ways and we have put forward the idea that we reduce the federal bureaucracy through attrition, you don't replace some offense those positions, you don't increase pay. we have talked about for millionaires, making sure that we're not subs zizing their -- you have got ideas that were brought forward in the discussions between president obama, speaker boehner and the vice president as far as savings. so we have identified a lot of areas where we can reduce spending to pay for, you know, this tax holiday. >> how have you not been able, though, to do what the democrats have successfully done. they have identified a group of people, the wealthy, that americans are all right with having them pay more. your plan is asking the
wealthiest in this country to give us some of what they have. you keep being painted as the defenders of the wealthy. what's going on here from a pr perspective? >> that's a great question and thank you for bringing it u we don't to come forward and say in a bipartisan way, saying let's close these loopholes, let's have a pro growth -- and you get revenue from growth and that should be part of a comprehensive plan that includes savings and entitlement reform. we can do it. it has to be bipartisan, and we're going to continue to push for it. >> you can bet there's going to be some kind of movement ona bill in the next few days. president obama -- >> this is not just another political debate.
this is the defining issue of our time. this is a make or break moment for the middle class. >> and then he took some shots at republicans. >> i believea this country succeeds when everyone gets a fair shot, when everyone does their fair share. when everyone plays by the same rules. >> all right, let's bring in democratic strategist jamaal simmons and john avalon. the democrats and the president have very successfully taken this issue of fairness, certain people are not carrying their fair share of the road. but then republicans come in and say that millionaires should have cuts in all these benefits. >> that should be the basis for a bipartisan agreement, that's giving a little bit. but right now we're heading into campaign season, that's the problem.
this was a major speech today by the white house where they unveiled the terms of 2012 as they want to see it. you heard the president say a lot about fairness. the most fascinating thing is that he gave the speech where teddy roosevelt gave his speech in 1910. you see president obama trying to wrap his agenda in the cloak of -- >> what did you think of the speech today? >> i thought the speech was very good at laying out the broad contours of -- we got to focus on making sure that young people have the will to succeesucceed, people node to know that they work hard, they go what they're supposed to do they're going to have greater opportunity. even before the recession started we were seeing that opportunity start to slip away and americans want to recapture that momentum to get the american dream.
>> john if you're a republican right now, they are for these millionaires taxes that democrats have proposed. what do you defensive you're a republican? what can you come forward? when you say this should be the basis for an agreement? >> that's the problem they've got. main means testing for entitlement reform, but they have an ideological -- it's on philosophical grounds not on polling grounds. so they're going to have to find other ways to reach out in substance and the deal is that the clock is ticking, we do need a bipartisan agreement otherwise folks are going to have their taxes raised out of their paychecks on january 1. so there's incentive for them to do so. >> the president was in a philosophical pretzel. at one point he's saying we can't cut taxes unless we find a way to pay for it. on the other hand he says we're
for pro growth, you cut taxes you get growth and you bring more money in. either you cut taxes and you don't pay for it or you cut taxes and you do. >> here's the way it's always been, we should be able to close loopholes and raise revenue as a result. that's the common ground that washington should be able to come to. it's not rocket science. >> you can close the loopholes but democrats want to make sure that you still have a certain amount of fairness in there and the wealthy have gotten by pretty good in the last few years. >> thanks to both of you. the vote of confidence the u.s. isn't getting today. china's rise is something i see
starkly when i travel in the mid east. in my conversation specifically about this, in a four-page ad in the "new york times" about the uae's 40th anniversary. he highlighted on the back that uae had only 18 businesses in 2005 and 800 today. a whole page for that. >> so how important is china to dubai? it must be pretty important? >> very important. you know, we think the power is shifting. for a few years now. and before we have been doing trade with asia and china before that, but now china is very, very important because china is growing up and we're changing that action. >> there is something to the question of which is now more
important for the world in your view, for the uae, china or the u.s.? >> the u.s. is very important. you know, and we been dealing with them for a long time. but this is a new market. >> just this year the uae became the number one destination for american exports in the middle east. so china's rise is a real and direct threat to the u.s. there. one thing before you feel too bad if you're an american watching tonight. china's rating although it's stable is still lower than the united states. >> newt gingrich is skyrocketing in the polls, downplaying his past as the first house speaker in history to be reprimanded for house speaker violations. nancy pelosi is going to share details about the investigation back then. when asked about his past, mr. gingrich didn't tell the whole story.
and trying to get answers from the hershey school in pennsylvania. they won't allow a student who's hiv positive, they won't allow him in the school. those stories and tonight's ridiculous at the top of the hour. >> anderson, as always, looking forward to it. >> ahead, twin suicide attacks kill dozens in afghanistan, we have exclusive video. and michelle parker was last seen on the people's court before she disappeared. tonight her friend and co-worker comes out to talk got her friend and the search. make that alabama... make that mississippi. the best part of the gulf is wherever you choose... and now is a great time to discover it. this year millions of people did. we set all kinds of records. next year we're out to do even better. so come on down to louisiana... florida... alabama... mississippi. we can't wait to see you. brought to you by bp and all of us who call the gulf home.
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we do this at the same time every night, our "outer circle" where we reach out to our sources around the world. we begin in afghanistan where 60 people were killed in twin suicide bombings today. you're looking at video of a suicide attack. who claimed responsibility? >> erin, who's key is the taliban leapt forward to condemn this attack, there has been a claim of responsibility, but really no one's sure about the reliability of that. many are confused about the sectarian nature of this -- whether this marks the beginning of some kind of new phase after
a decade of war trying to foment an interracial strike. >> timothy geithner is meeting with european counterparts. >> reporter: timothy geithner is over here because he knows if the euro fails that is a huge problem for the u.s. economy. he's telling the european leaders to get their act together. he said that but that the rest of the euro's has to back them to build a stronger europe. erin? >> and now we go to russia where at least 250 anti-putin demonstrate fors and an opposition leader were arrested today. it was the second day of mass protests. pro government supporters were also out in full force. and phil blackwell was there in moscow. what's behind the protests? >> reporter: these people are rallying in the streets because
they're angry with the fact that they believe that the parliamentary elections that were carried out on sunday were unfair. they say they were slanted in favor of the russian party. that party suffered significant losses and that is considered to be a significant humiliation to the prime minister vladimir putin most intending to return to the president si of this country early in the new year. >> phil black, thank you. now to florida, a tip investigators are expanding the search area for 50-year-old michelle parker. police say a caller reported someone who looked like parker in the daytona beach area. this is a new lead, but it hasn't turned up anything so far. the missing mother hasn't been seen since she dropped off her kids to their father, her ex. convince denly, parker
disappeared the same day that show aired. smith has a criminal history, including domestic abuse -- he has declined our invitation to come out front. thank you so much for taking the time, erica. have you heard anything more about the new tip-in daytona beach? is that an area michelle was familiar with or ever talked about with you? >> no, erin, i have not been updated on the tip that we received today and it's not an area that i know michelle to frequent. >> we were talking with michelle's sister lauren, i know you're friendly with her and have stayed in touch with her. they have moved the demand post to the barn which is where michelle worked. are they still working that area. >> yes, ma'am, the command center is still there at the barn, the main is to make sure
face is out in a new area. they want to make sure her story stays current can kind of like what you're doing for us now. although the search is not happening in seminole county, the search is continuing. >> you were friendly with her from work, right, at the barn? >> yes, ma'am. she's an amazing person. she's a great mother to her children, she love her family. she's always the light of the night. she's like a magnet. she just draws people in. she's a beautiful, beautiful person. >> do you have any sense from anything she said of what might have happened here? >> no, ma'am, no. >> so you speak to lauren, as i mentioned, her sister who has been on this show as well. how is the family holding up? have you seen her kids? i know they're still with dale. >> they are. i have not seen her children, and her family is staying strong and positive, doing everything they can to bring her home.
>> so what else are you planning to do to get the word out? i know, you said it gets harder as it gets further and further away from her disappearance. >> it does get harder. we try to stay positive. we're continuing with benefits. we have a benefit this coming weekend at the barn in sanford with a truck pull and tug of war. all proceeds go to the continued search effort for her and also for her children. we're passing out flyers as much as we can, staying on tv, staying with facebook, it's a great way to keep her name out there, her face out there. just trying to make sure that people are aware that we still want her home and we're not going to give up. >> erica, thank you very much for coming outfront and telling your story. wee hope she'll be found and found alive. thank you. >> thank you so much. >> well, she spent 18 months in a haram. yes, there are harams in this
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we began with, well, her life in a haram. it read like fiction, but it was real. >> it's absolutely true. it's a memoir of my time when i was actually still a teenager that i wound up in the haram of the prince of brunei and i spent a year as his mistress and traveling back and forth and it's about that emotional journey for me. >> you grew up in new jersey, you went to nyu theater school. you dropped out. your parents didn't really know what you were doing. i guess at the time you were stripping and that's how you got this, but you didn't know you were going to be in a haram, did you? >> no, i was stripping, i was also acting. when i went to this supposed audition or casting, it was supposedly to go and entertain a rich businessman in singapore for what at that time was a tremendous amount of money.
>> it was $20,000. >> which was astronomical for two weeks worth of work. >> yes. >> when i got the job, they told me actually you're being invited to be the guest of the prince of brunei and attend these parties that he has every night. i said where? i hadn't even heard of brunei. >> tell me about this prince jeffri. this is the guy that went through $50 million a week or something. he spent more than $14 billion, more than anybody in the world. this guy's kind of a crazy guy. >> he's crazy, and decadent. and you know, at that time, it was attractive to me, his confidence and his charisma and his recklessness. and of course, recklessness when you have billions and billion of dollars translates to this huge scale, which is why i think is still is in the press and entertaining us all with his antics. >> yes, he certainly is. "vanity fair" profiles, court
cases all kind of insanity. let me ask you about your other book "pretty", which is not a memoir. but you just waved your arm and everyone can see your tattoos. a woman that's described like you. she had a lot of tribulations in her life, at least the character in the book, struggled with alcoholism, drugs, things like that. is that reflective of you? >> yes. you know, many, many of the details in "pretty" are culled from my life. certainly the substance abuse problems. i wrote that book when i was in very early recovery from a drug and alcohol addiction of many years. and -- but it's all sort of thrown up in the air and come back down in a different order. mo as opposed to the memoir where it was an exercise in memory and accuracy and honesty. and this is a little bit more of a flight of fancy. also honest in its own way, emotionally very honest book, the novel. but the narrative is invented.
but many of the people are characters from my life. >> your life. and do you feel proud of the fact that you set such an example? >> i don't think of myself as an example, necessarily. but i do feel very strongly about telling my story in a way that is honest and that's free from shame because i do hope to help other people to honor their own stories even when there are mistakes and missteps involved. >> jillian, thank you so much. such a pleasure to meet you in person. >> thank you so much. >> i read her book on a plane. bought her book in singapore. just really an amazing story. tomorrow on "outfront" another amazing story. there's a new presidential candidate in the front of the republican party. they'll exclusively announce their candidacy here on "outfront." we have that coming up tomorrow night. right now, thanks so much for watching. and "anderson cooper 360" starts right now.